I've had this sketch for a while and finally got around to coloring it....
young justice (c) Warner Brothers & DC comics.
Me: Because you're his dad, duh.
Come on supes you should know this!
Yeah, that was pretty messed up of superman. I get being offended but don't blame the kid! I really like batman in YJ. He was the best daddy. In the first YJ comic (based on the show) Wally took Connor to his house until they could find a place for him. While there, they received a mystery envelope with a credit card "to pay for all expenses" Connor thought it was from Superman but it was signed with a bat xD
character derailment,severe derailment at that, for the sake of drama is not good storytelling
On a side note, I like YJ Conner better than superman for two reasons. One, he's voiced by Nolan North. As a gamer, that means you get to hear one of the greatest video game voices on TV, which is awesome. And two he's relatable. Super boy's character revolves around him being created as the successor to the worlds greatest and most powerful superhero. But he has to struggle with not only not being strong enough to succeed him, but also has to deal with the fact that superman barley acknowledges him as a person. I can relate to this as I am constantly compared to these gifted children by my mother while I am only an above average student. This makes me feel... Not good enough. Like I'm just a failer. Just like what he goes through in the earlier parts of the show.
To Superman: This is why I'm fan of Batman.
That is true! Actually if Kara had appeared then Connor would have felt useless. Personally I feel he should have learned to fly either at the start or at the 2nd season because the boy can fly in the comics. Personally I think if he had been able to fly with how Clark was acting I would assume Kon wouldn't want to use it as often and just use his jumping ability then fly if needed.
Interestingly enough it's stated that Donna and the Marvels joined after the end of season 1 but left during the time skip.
Oh and I know a lot of people prefer that SB can't fly cause the story would be messed up, I feel it wouldn't. The patches Lex gave him could have been used to just enhance his powers to be fully developed instead of just unlocking them.
This is why I love the ability of Fanfictions, because you can alter a story to make it better. That's what I'm doing. I just have to get the damn thing written, I'm also adding a go between character who takes Kon in like a little brother to give him some kind of family. Poor Kon has to wait half a year just to get a family and it's just not right. Mr. Kent senoir, is an awesome Father, unlike Clark who sucks at it.
I don't like the shields for that same reason, Kon only had half of Clarks DNA so he only had half the genetic information of a Kryptonian, he shouldn't have been able to able to manifest full Kryptonian powers because the genetic information simply doesn't exists within him. This would make the story make more sense since Kon is stuck at the same physiological age that Cadmus could get Match to (before he started degrading) as that would have been their reference point. If the writers wanted Kon to be able to fly then the most logical choice would have been to have Kon somehow activate the metagene (it was part of the plot-line in season 2) in his human half in order to develop a adaptation that better allowed him to utilize his ability to process solar energy by developing abilities that mimicked Kryptonian powers (TTK would have been just right).
I honestly don't understand how a pair of professional writers could have written something like this! Young Justice was a golden opportunity to refine the personalities and origins of so many characters, all that was needed was a little before thought and instead of using cheap plot devices (starro tech, inhibitor collars, Shield patches, and so on) to move the plot forward have character development between the team and their mentors which has them come together to overcome obstacles. Sorry for the lengthy reply, bad writing really grinds my gears and I needed to get that off my chest .
You know I agree with you and I also don't. For one the plot devices had they been used more properly then it would have made more sense.
Now for the collars I can see how the are weird, I mean why make certain criminals where them and not others. Personally if they slapped one on Savage he'd be dead most likely in a matter of months or weeks depending on his death sentence. The collars were both miss written and also do their job, as because many villain's are naturally or man made metahuman's then the collars make sense when it comes to stopping them, but the real reason that the collars don't work is because they are still humane as they can be turned off by a normal person, if they really wanted to they should have had two versions, one that was altered to be controlled by remote the other once locked around the neck can not me turned off by an outside force with out a special key for each one. But they can't do that because the show's length wouldn't permit it.
As for others such as Starro Tech it in it's self is an interesting and decent plot device as unlike other ways such as just magic, telekinetic power, or technology it's a combo. Though cheap and sneaky it works as once attached it can't be undone with out the Cure Tech, which in my mind was made to quickly and had the episodes been slightly drown out it would have felt more natural. Starro Tech is more inhumane which it takes away the human right to think for themselves which gives more of a sense of danger.
The shield patches are there also because they represent the dangers of chemical dependency. It also shows Connor's deep wanting to be more like Superman, wanting him to see him as an equal. Truly the patches are a sneaky way to bring in drug use for a character in a more comfortable way, much more comfortable then with Red Arrow who in the comics was a drug addict which they tried to rewrite with him going nearly mad looking for the original Roy Harper.
The main thing is that no item or device can be truly used properly when not written out which happened in the show, living people to read between the lines which many do not. With that because many villain's themselves are normally just powerful with out metahuman genes, but with wealth or the use of persuasion be it with greed or fear. Note that "The Light" the main villain's are just like that, with the exception of Klarion the witch boy. Queen Bee only has her power of persuasion to do her work, Savage is a special case, and if you look up the others, there's nothing special about them except for their backgrounds and reputations.
For me the one thing I don't care for is the Red Arrow and Cheshire relationship. (Blech!) For one it was clear that Cheshire herself in this season never once showed romantic interest in Red Arrow, only flirting, and most likely if your not blind was more interested in a sexual relationship. Note her only real emotion came out with her family. For this I don't like the writing with this relationship, I personally find the comics more compelling and interesting, but the YJ version it makes no sense!
First thing that makes no sense, is that at some time after 2011 Cheshire "left" crime to be with Red Arrow. The main problem with this is the League of Shadows. The group wouldn't just let a member go, they would forever monitoring her unless Ra's al Ghul permited her to be let go, which he may have done, but I don't buy it.
Then we have to take Red Arrow in to the mix. Why in gods name would he willingly have a relationship with a woman he had no interest in at all at the start when she knew he was a clone, and made a foul out of him. Not to mention that the JL and The Team for three years were all looking for the original Roy Harper. With the help of the them both surrounding him, then that would mean the Roy would be harboring a well known assassin and criminal. As well as the fact that Roy's growing obsession and need to find original Roy Harper would have been growing and he wouldn't be interested in any relationship of any kind especially after the third year when the League and Team stopped looking for original Roy. The only thing possible would have been an emotional and guilt ridden depression which would lead to a one night stand, which would have just given more problems.
Next is the fact that Red Arrow married Cheshire. WHY?! Again Roy feels he is nothing more the a worthless clone who stole the originals life, why would he get legally married?! And not to mention to a criminal with massive warrant's on her head no doubt?! Now the shows writers just said they did it because a baby out of wedlock isn't right for a kids show. BULL! Most of the audience for YJ was older anyway and I really doubt no ones heard of Angelina Jolie and Brad Pitt by at least age 8 for gods sake!
Personally find that Red Arrow would only do any of these things if he already was in a relationship before the time skip which would have made more sense and deeper meaning of a woman excepting him for him not as a clone. The entire Roy and Cheshire relationship is pure crap and the only thing good to come out of it was Lian and that was it. Of course even in the comics she doesn't last either which just wrecks everything.
Beat you on length didn't I? I do enjoy having a good conversation.
The shield patches being used to illustrate “the dangers of chemical dependency” could have been a good plot line but they fail right from the beginning. The patches completely invalidated the premise that Superboy was half human, they created something that simply wasn’t there. If half of a human beings genetics were to be suppressed their cells would cease to function because the proteins necessary for cellular function would not be built; the same thing can be said about Superboy, if the human half of his DNA was turned off temporarily (which is physically impossible due to the nature of DNA) then the cells would simply not function, the whole reason that he was even created was because Cadmus could not replicate Kryptonian DNA without there being major systemic degradation (project Match); Connor can’t develop powers that he doesn’t have because genetic information necessary for him to have those abilities simply does not exist within his genetic code, shutting down half of his genetic structure wouldn’t change that. I have no problem with the show trying to demonstrate the pitfalls of drug abuse but only when it doesn’t interfere with the reality within which the story is set and the actual attempt at illustrating drug abuse is fully developed; Connor doesn’t even face any repercussions for what he did, other than a few violent outbursts (which he already had plenty of) and one question from Aqualad which he could’ve easily dodged. There was no withdrawal syndrome, no lasting side effects, and no intervention, Connor just comes clean (pun intended) to his friends and that’s it.
I will skip the Starro-Tech since it uses magic, otherwise known as the cheapest plot device ever created (I’m not saying magic can’t be used right within the confines of the story, but it’s capacity and tendency for abuse is too great to be ignored). I do agree with you about Cheshire and Red Arrow relationship, but to be honest I didn’t even think about it until you brought it up since it was such a relatively small part of the storyline, but you are right nonetheless, it doesn’t make sense; good catch! I suppose we can add that to the growing list of things that need to be red inked.
In your second to last paragraph you mentioned how the writers had to marry Jade and Roy because a child out of wedlock isn’t right for a kids show, that is exactly the problem that Young Justice could never overcome. Simply put, it wasn’t a kids show but it tried to be one, there were a lot of dark themes like child abuse (Sports Master and Artemis), neglect (Superman and Superboy), terrorism, abduction, unethical experimentation upon living creatures (Cadmus), the apocalypse, drug abuse, unhealthy obsessions, political corruption, the list goes on. But the vast majority of these themes were watered down so as to maintain a child safe rating; on top of all that the demographic cartoon network was targeting wasn’t the one that the show attracted which created a conflict of interests and presentation, which combined to make the show difficult to market and disjointed in terms of its narrative.
Still, my biggest gripe is that too often did the writers cross the line between suspension of disbelief and full on logical fallacy. That and I was hoping Superboy would finally be recognized as Superman’s illegitimate son rather than a clone (he is a hybrid, how long is it going to take DC writers to get that through their heads).
And for the record this reply is 935 words long while yours was 997 (I checked) so yours is still longer, Congratulations.
Crowd full of League members: (roars)
Batman: I TOLD YOU, I TOLD YOU, Take responsibility BITCH!!!
Anywho, Conner's adorable here - hopefully, he'll win over Daddy's affections sooner rather than later.
One twin is pretty much a clone of the other, right? So why can't superman at least accept Conner as a twin brother or something.